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  1. Mahesh says:

    April 27, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    Hi John,

    The idea of TCoE looks good. However when Testing Group is treated as a separate entity (under TCoE) it may become too formal to communicate with our own teams (like development/marketing/QA). Information exchange/gathering may become too formal and may feel like as if we are directly interacting with Customers. This may affect the quantity and quality of the information available for testing.

    Mahesh

  2. Sumanth says:

    May 31, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    John,
    TSoE is a good idea to streamline things for testing dept. but with the testing team supporting multiple teams/projects without being recognized as a independent revenue earning entity, will it get its worth without being dependent on others.

  3. John Scarborough says:

    June 28, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Not sure what you’re saying, so please re-submit your reply if I’ve missed it. Testing should always be a separate entity – otherwise its judgement will be compromised, and its worth questioned. Internal communications, such as with the development team or with the PMO, are best kept formal so that there is no chance of misunderstanding. That’s obviously not the case if you’re working in Agile and the guy sits on the other side of the lab bench from you – you can talk through the issue. But you’ve mentioned “as if we are directly interacting with customers” – sounds like you are referencing a specific situation where members of a TCoE are not encouraged to interact directly with customers. I find that after about 6 weeks, you not only can but should encourage direct interaction, unless language differences (say Czech vs. Tamil) are too severe to overcome. Putting layers into communication only increases the possiblity of error, unless everything is formally structured, and then you have to worry that people won’t communicate because it takes too long.

  4. John Scarborough says:

    June 28, 2010 at 7:51 pm

    That’s all about the engagement model and how the TCoE vendor structures its output-based incentive pay. If everyone in the TCoE has the same targets, you promote teamwork. If the test automation architect in the TCoE has a separate target, she’ll be inclined to tilt the work schedule to allow her to buy that new Miata, while the guys in security are still balancing on their Velos.

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